Paul, 25At a glance
Who
Paul. The Real World’s caption gives the age as 25 and shows an Irish flag; Paul doesn’t state an age or a country in the video, and says “moved abroad” (1:08).
Starting point
“I studied maths for four years and then I came out of college and, to no one’s surprise, I found no job” (0:00); then “working in a supermarket, which was fine to pay the bills” (0:09).
How Paul found it
“that’s when I came across Tate, and he was telling all about how college was a waste of time” (0:40).
Campus
Strategic Marketing, which Paul knew as copywriting: “I started learning more about the skill of copywriting” (1:00). “I personally never knew that copywriting was a position until The Real World came along” (2:08).
Timeline
“a couple months playing around with it” to “a decent income”; then Paul “left my job and moved abroad” (1:05). The video doesn’t name the year; it was on The Real World’s home page by 8 June 2023.
Result (video)
“in the average month I probably make four or five thousand” (1:22). Joint businesses with two friends: “we tend to make over 10k a month” (1:36). No currency for either; revenue or profit not said.
Result (caption)
The Real World’s caption: “New revenue: $5k/month”, and that Paul “couldn’t find a job after 4 years of college” but no longer has “to worry about a 9-5 ever again” (quoted without the pronoun).
The caption and Paul broadly agree: the caption’s $5k a month is the top of Paul’s “four or five thousand”, though the caption gives dollars and calls it revenue, and Paul gives neither a currency nor revenue or profit. Paul says “I wouldn’t know lump sum” (1:22), so there is no total since joining. The “over 10k a month” is shared: “between our joint businesses”, with “two friends that I knew from before” who joined at about the same time (1:28); Paul doesn’t say what share is Paul’s. The figures are Paul’s and The Real World’s own; this site hasn’t seen them.
What Paul said
7 lines from the interview, copied exactly, each with what it means in plain English. The times are where they fall in the video.
“I studied maths for four years and then I came out of college and, to no one’s surprise, I found no job.”
What it means: The starting point: a degree, but no job from it.
“I ended up working in a supermarket, which was fine to pay the bills”
What it means: The job before: steady, with “an hour or so on the bike every day”.
“I saw that I could use my ability with words quite easily to generate an income online”
What it means: Why copywriting: Paul matched the skill to something Paul was already good at.
“a couple months playing around with it I was able to set up a decent income and left my job and moved abroad”
What it means: A couple of months to “a decent income”, by Paul’s account; Paul gives no figure for that stage.
“in the average month I probably make four or five thousand”
What it means: Paul’s own monthly figure. No currency; revenue or profit not said.
“between our joint businesses, we tend to make over 10k a month”
What it means: Shared with two friends, not Paul’s alone.
“So it’s more than just a couple of PDFs like a lot of people believe.”
What it means: Paul’s answer to the critics: the motivation, the wins and the people to work with.
What Paul did, step by step
Paul finished a maths degree
“I studied maths for four years”, then “I found no job”.
In the video at 0:00
Paul worked in a supermarket
“fine to pay the bills”, but “cycling every day to and from” took “an hour or so on the bike every day”.
In the video at 0:09
Paul heard about it from Tate
Tate was “telling all about how college was a waste of time, how there’s a better way to make money”, and Paul was “a bit deflated” about the degree.
In the video at 0:40
Paul learned copywriting
“I started learning more about the skill of copywriting”, with an “ability with words”. Paul credits “Andrew”, who “really understands the craft” (2:31).
In the video at 1:00
Paul left the job and moved abroad
After “a couple months playing around with it”, “a decent income”.
In the video at 1:05
Paul got to four or five thousand a month
“in the average month I probably make four or five thousand”, and with two friends, joint businesses over 10K a month (1:36).
In the video at 1:22
Full transcript
Read the full interview transcript (4 minutes)
Transcribed on 30 October 2026 from the interview audio with Whisper speech recognition (run locally): a first pass on 26 October, then two more full passes with the medium and small models; punctuation fixed, fillers and false starts dropped (“I wasn’t really, you know,” at 0:30), nothing added; “[unclear]” marks words the passes don’t agree on. At 0:40 two readings hear “Tate” and one “tape”. The medium pass repeats one sentence several times at 3:44 to 3:55, a known speech-recognition fault; the other two readings agree and are used there. The “Yeah” at 3:35 may be the interviewer. The “Andrew” Paul names as a teacher isn’t identified further. Speaker labels are ours. The interviewer is from The Real World, not a Tate. The $50 mentioned was the price at the time; today it is $99 a month on the official checkout, and there is no free trial.
0:00 Paul: I studied maths for four years and then I came out of college and, to no one's surprise, I found no job. So after a while, I ended up working in a supermarket, which was fine to pay the bills, but I was cycling every day to and from, [it] was taking like an hour or so on the bike every day, and it just wasn't ideal. And, you know, I was a bit deflated after this disappointment of not getting anywhere with my degree. And that's when I came across Tate, and he was telling all about how college was a waste of time, how there's a better way to make money. And, you know, with all the timing, it just seemed like the right thing to try out. So I went in and I saw that I could use my ability with words quite easily to generate an income online. So I started learning more about the skill of copywriting, and, you know, a couple months playing around with it I was able to set up a decent income and left my job and moved abroad. So yeah, that's the story.
1:16 Interviewer: Now, in terms of figures, how much have you made, or how much do you make monthly?
1:22 Paul: I wouldn't know lump sum, but in the average month I probably make four or five thousand. I'm also working with two friends that I knew from before. They joined The Real World similar times to me, and between our joint businesses, we tend to make over 10k a month.
1:43 Interviewer: How different is the material within The Real World compared to what you can find out on the internet?
1:53 Paul: Well, first off, the thing that you have to realise is a lot of people would never find this material if it wasn't for The Real World, even if it does exist in all these other places. Because, like, I personally never knew that copywriting was a position until The Real World came along. I thought you just had to be like a novelist or a blogger or something like that to make money from writing. I had no idea. So, I mean, that's immediately one way that The Real World has helped me. And the materials in there, they're fantastic. Like, Andrew really understands the craft. He teaches you a lot about the psychology, the marketing, all of that. But there's more to it as well. I mean, there's just endless motivation within the campus. There's people always posting their wins, professors always telling people how they can exceed their expectations, how they can do more than they're currently doing, how they can work harder than they've ever worked before. So it's more than just a couple of PDFs like a lot of people believe. It's a full community where you can learn any skill that can make you money and find people of a similar level to work alongside and help each other out.
3:20 Interviewer: For people who are still unsure whether or not The Real World is a scam, they're unsure of whether or not to join, what advice would you have to them?
3:31 Paul: I mean, what are you risking? Like, what is it to join right now? It's $50, isn't it? Yeah. So you can try it out for a month for $50 and see if it's a real thing. But think about the opportunity cost, right? Because if you don't join, nothing changes. And are you, like, all that happy with your current life, if you're honest? Don't you want to see how good things can get? Like, that's what I would say. I think that's worth risking, or gambling, however you want to put it, $50, because the upside is potentially so high. So that's what I would say. Just take the chance, because if you actually commit to this, great things can happen.
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Paul saw “I could use my ability with words quite easily” (0:50) and spent “a couple months playing around with it” (1:05) before “a decent income”.
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- Wins and motivation. Paul: “there’s people always posting their wins, professors always telling people how they can exceed their expectations” (2:45), and people “of a similar level to work alongside” (3:12). That is Paul’s account.
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- The Dojo. A channel group with #daily-dojo-puzzle, #the-dojo-hq (the Dojo Drill of the Day) and #the-dojo.
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What members said on Trustpilot
Trustpilot has since removed The Real World’s profiles. These excerpts come from archived copies of those pages, read on 25 October 2026, with the reviewer’s first name, country and date as shown; “Invited” is Trustpilot’s label for reviews that came through a business link. The jointherealworld.com.de profile was not run by The Real World; reviewers used it anyway. They are reviews of The Real World as a whole, not of one campus, and other people’s words, not this site’s findings.
“The biggest thing for me, besides the lessons and the professors, is the community. You have a problem, ask a question in chat, fixed in 5 minutes.”
“after a month, I informed them that their services were not suitable for me. Despite my clear communication, they attempted to withdraw a significant amount of money from my credit card for an additional two months.”
The Real World replied: “turn off auto-renew before your next billing date.”
“Most the informaton you could find for free online in other places but you'll spend more time trying to find a simple step by step guide then using this platform.”
“Despite paying $49 per month (around $300 total), I didn't make any money or gain valuable insights. Much of the content was outdated and U.S.-focused”
“the campuses are also perfect if you are completely new to these methods of wealth creation but it'll take you some time before you see results.”
“The courses themselves are okay, but they're difficult to apply, and getting real clients is even harder. Overall, I don't think this works.”
For the record, the scores on 27 February 2025: the profile at trwstudent.com showed 2.9 from 23 reviews, and therealworldeducation.com showed 4.4 from 82, most of them invited through a business link over two days. Both profiles have since been removed.
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It may suit you if
- You are good with words. Paul “could use my ability with words quite easily”.
- Your degree or job isn’t going anywhere, and you have a few hours a day to change that.
- You have no starting capital and a few hours a day. The Real World lists Strategic Marketing among the campuses that “sell a skill instead of a product”.
- You would team up with people at your level. Paul works with “two friends” who joined at about the same time.
It may not suit you if
- You are shy or timid. In the experience of the member behind this site, selling your writing means talking to clients.
- You read “over 10k a month” as one person’s income. It is the total of joint businesses with two friends; Paul’s own is “four or five thousand”.
- You can only give it the odd hour. The official courses page says “the checklist expects a few focused hours per day” and that “Members who treat it as a side interest see little.”
- You need a guaranteed return. The Real World’s Terms of Use say it doesn’t guarantee any financial outcome, and Paul’s figures are Paul’s own.
Paul’s numbers are one student’s account, given in an interview The Real World chose to publish. For more on who it suits and how long it took to feel confident, see the Strategic Marketing campus review, from a member who took the campus when it was still Copywriting, in the Hustlers University days.
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Sources
- The Real World: Paul’s student interview video (Cloudflare Stream) — transcribed October 30, 2026
- jointherealworld.com home page with the interview and its caption (Wayback Machine, June 8, 2023)
- jointherealworld.com home page, the same caption (Wayback Machine, November 6, 2023)
- Inside The Real World app: the Strategic Marketing campus Learning Center, START-HERE and #daily-schedule (screenshots from the owner’s member account) — captured October 26, 2026
- The Real World: Strategic Marketing campus page (formerly Copywriting) — checked September 12, 2026
- The Real World: courses page (the campus list, where to start, time per day) — checked September 12, 2026
- The Real World Terms of Use (no guaranteed outcome) — checked September 14, 2026
- Trustpilot reviews of trwstudent.com, archived February 27, 2025 (Wayback Machine) — read October 25, 2026
- Trustpilot reviews of therealworldeducation.com, archived February 27, 2025, pages 1 and 2 (Wayback Machine) — read October 25, 2026
- Trustpilot reviews of www.cobratate.com, archived December 28, 2022 (Wayback Machine) — read October 25, 2026
- Trustpilot reviews of jointherealworld.com.de (not run by The Real World), archived February 27, 2026 (Wayback Machine) — read October 25, 2026